Symptom

I never know where the ball should be in my stance

The ball sits somewhere slightly different each time you set up, and the strike changes along with it.

This usually traces to something already true before the club moves: grip, aim, posture, or where the ball sits in your stance. All of those are checkable standing still, which is why the questions ask you to look rather than to guess.

Common ways golfers describe this

  • Where should the ball be in my stance?
  • Ball too far forward in my stance
  • I move the ball around every single shot
  • I never know where to put the ball
  • Ball position inconsistent contact
Feet, hips and shoulders all square, seen from aboveA golfer at address seen from directly above, with the target at the top of the picture and the golfer standing to the left of the ball. A dashed line runs from the ball straight up the page to a pin: the target line. Three lines cross the body, drawn one behind another. The nearest to the ball runs through two footprints and is the feet, square to the target line. The middle line, dashed with a cross tick at each end, is the hips, square to the target line. The furthest line, dash-and-dot with an open circle at each end, is the shoulders, square to the target line. The figure moves. The three lines are laid down one at a time in the order a golfer checks them, feet first, then hips, then shoulders, and each arrives square to the target line before turning to the aim it is drawn at. A line that is aimed off the target is therefore seen turning away from square rather than only being reported as off it.
  • Feet, in the footprints: square to the line
  • Hips, cross ticks: square to the line
  • Shoulders, round ends: square to the line
  • Target line
Aim is three lines rather than one, and they can disagree without a golfer feeling it. They are drawn square here, which is the position the questions ask you to check yours against.

Narrow it to one cause

Each question is here because golfers answer it differently, and that difference is what rules a cause out. Nothing is generated while you answer: every question, cause and fix was written and checked in advance.

A few questions · no account needed

What you will be asked

  1. Before you swing, is there one landmark you check the ball against?
  2. How does the ball's place in your stance change from a wedge to a driver?
  3. Hitting a mid-iron off grass, where does your divot start compared with where the ball sat?
  4. When you miss the strike, what does it most often look like?
  5. Hit five balls from an inch further back than usual, then five from an inch further forward. Which set is better struck?

Where this can come from

These are the causes this symptom resolves to, in the order they turn up most often. That order is not a diagnosis and it is not your answer: two of them can produce a shot that looks identical from behind. Each has a fix you can read now, whether or not you answer anything.

  1. Ball too far forward in the stance

    The ball sits ahead of where the swing arc reaches its lowest point. With an iron off turf this means the club is already climbing at contact. It also encourages the shoulders to aim left at address, which pulls the path further left and adds curve to the miss.

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  2. Ball too far back in the stance

    The ball sits well before the low point, so the club is still descending steeply when it arrives and delivers less loft than the club actually carries. Flight is low and the ball meets the face while the path is still travelling right, which is why a back ball position so often adds a push or a hook.

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  3. No repeatable setup or routine

    Aim, ball position, stance width and grip get rebuilt slightly differently on every shot, so face angle, low point and strike location all vary with them. Address is the reference the whole swing is measured from, and a reference that moves explains misses that seem to have no pattern.

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  4. Low point that does not repeat

    The bottom of the arc lands in a different place relative to the ball on each swing, so fat and thin alternate instead of one miss repeating. Treating it as two faults and correcting each in turn is what keeps the golfer oscillating between them.

    Read the fix

These are not here because they sound similar. Each one can come from a cause on the list above, which is why fixing one sometimes quietly fixes another. The closest matches are first.

What this rests on

If something here contradicts what a launch monitor tells you, say so. Corrections change the page.

Discussion

Golfers who have had this shot, on what it turned out to be and what sorted it. Read it as experience rather than diagnosis: the questions above are what narrow it to a cause.

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