Symptom

One fat, the next one thin

Contact never settles: one shot is hit behind the ball, the next is caught thin, and only a few come out of the middle.

Fat, thin and topped shots are one problem seen from different sides: the lowest point of the swing arc is not where the ball is. Where it sits instead, and why, is what separates the causes below.

Common ways golfers describe this

  • Fat then thin
  • Fat or thin nothing in between
  • I either chunk or blade my irons
  • Chunk then blade
  • Chunking and skulling my irons
Divot running straight down the target lineA ball and its divot seen from above, with the golfer's feet drawn at the left and a dashed target line running up the page through the ball. The divot is a torn strip of turf starting just past the ball and running forward toward the target, running straight down the target line. It is brown soil showing inside a ragged edge, a divot of ordinary depth with the sod lying just ahead. The figure moves. The club passes through the turf at an even speed and the divot is cut behind it, starting where the club first met the ground and running forward, so where the cut begins relative to the ball is watched rather than stated.
  • Target line
  • Your divot
The mark left in the turf is the one piece of evidence that waits for you to walk up and look at it. Drawn here square and of ordinary depth, which is the reference yours is read against.

Narrow it to one cause

Each question is here because golfers answer it differently, and that difference is what rules a cause out. Nothing is generated while you answer: every question, cause and fix was written and checked in advance.

A few questions · no account needed

What you will be asked

  1. Over a full round or a bucket of balls, which miss turns up more?
  2. Set up to five mid-irons in a row, from scratch each time. Where does the ball end up in your stance?
  3. Push an alignment stick or a spare club into the ground just outside your trail foot, so it touches your trail hip at address. Make a few slow backswings. What happens to the stick?
  4. Hold your finish on a normal iron shot. Where is your weight?
  5. On the shots you do catch reasonably well, how does the ball fly for the club?
  6. Is it worse on the course than on the range?

Where this can come from

These are the causes this symptom resolves to, in the order they turn up most often. That order is not a diagnosis and it is not your answer: two of them can produce a shot that looks identical from behind. Each has a fix you can read now, whether or not you answer anything.

  1. Low point that does not repeat

    The bottom of the arc lands in a different place relative to the ball on each swing, so fat and thin alternate instead of one miss repeating. Treating it as two faults and correcting each in turn is what keeps the golfer oscillating between them.

    Read the fix

  2. Weight hanging on the trail foot

    Pressure stays on the trail foot through impact instead of moving toward the target. The low point of the arc sits behind the ball, so the club either bottoms out early and takes turf first, or is travelling upward by the time it arrives. Both misses come from the same cause, which is why fat and thin so often alternate.

    Read the fix

  3. No repeatable setup or routine

    Aim, ball position, stance width and grip get rebuilt slightly differently on every shot, so face angle, low point and strike location all vary with them. Address is the reference the whole swing is measured from, and a reference that moves explains misses that seem to have no pattern.

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  4. Swaying off the ball

    The body slides away from the target in the backswing instead of turning around a stable centre, carrying the middle of the arc with it. Unless exactly that much slide comes back at exactly the right moment, the low point arrives in the wrong place.

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  5. Casting, or releasing the club too early

    The wrist angle is thrown away at the start of the downswing, so the shaft arrives vertical or leaning backwards. That adds loft, moves the low point behind the ball, and widens the arc early, which is why casting costs distance and drops the strike low on the face at the same time.

    Read the fix

  6. Ball too far forward in the stance

    The ball sits ahead of where the swing arc reaches its lowest point. With an iron off turf this means the club is already climbing at contact. It also encourages the shoulders to aim left at address, which pulls the path further left and adds curve to the miss.

    Read the fix

These are not here because they sound similar. Each one can come from a cause on the list above, which is why fixing one sometimes quietly fixes another. The closest matches are first.

What this rests on

If something here contradicts what a launch monitor tells you, say so. Corrections change the page.

Discussion

Golfers who have had this shot, on what it turned out to be and what sorted it. Read it as experience rather than diagnosis: the questions above are what narrow it to a cause.

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