Symptom

The clubface opens or shuts as soon as I take it back

Stopped where the shaft is parallel to the ground, the face is already pointing up at the sky or down at the ground instead of matching the angle of your spine.

Where a shot starts is governed almost entirely by where the clubface is pointing when it meets the ball. That is the relationship this symptom sits on, so the questions work back from the start line rather than from anything about your swing.

Common ways golfers describe this

  • Clubface rolls open when I take the club back
  • Clubface pointing at the ground in the backswing
  • Leading edge angle at hip height
  • Leading edge should match my spine angle
  • Clubface at hip height in the backswing
Ball flight starting right of the target lineA golf shot drawn twice: seen from above, and below a hairline rule, seen from the side to show its height. In the view from above, a dashed line runs from the ball straight up the page to the green: the target line. A second dashed line leaves the ball right of the target line: the line the ball starts on. The flight leaves the ball along it, and holds that line without bending, finishing right of the green. The side view shows an arc of ordinary height from the ball to the green. The figure moves. In both views a ball leaves the tee and travels at an even speed, drawing the flight behind it as it goes, so the point at which it stops following the line it started on can be watched rather than worked out. It holds at the finish, then the marks clear and the shot is played again.
  • Target line
  • Start line
  • Your flight
Where a shot leaves is a reading of its own, taken before anything about the curve. The drawing takes it to one side; which side yours starts is the first thing the questions ask.

Narrow it to one cause

Each question is here because golfers answer it differently, and that difference is what rules a cause out. Nothing is generated while you answer: every question, cause and fix was written and checked in advance.

A few questions · no account needed

What you will be asked

  1. Swing back until the shaft is parallel to the ground and stop. Where is the face pointing?
  2. Before the club moves, sole it behind the ball and look at the leading edge. Where does it point?
  3. Looking down at address, how many knuckles can you see on your lead hand?
  4. What do the shots do on the days this is at its worst?
  5. Stop at that same point three swings in a row. Is the face in the same place each time?
  6. In the first foot of the takeaway, what moves the club?

Where this can come from

These are the causes this symptom resolves to, in the order they turn up most often. That order is not a diagnosis and it is not your answer: two of them can produce a shot that looks identical from behind. Each has a fix you can read now, whether or not you answer anything.

  1. Face open at impact

    The clubface is pointing right of where the club is travelling when it meets the ball. Start direction is governed almost entirely by where the face points at impact, and the curve comes from how far the face sits open to the path. An open face is why the ball starts right, curves right, and loses height-adjusted distance: loft is effectively added as the face rotates open.

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  2. Grip too weak

    The hands sit rotated toward the target on the handle, so the lead wrist has to do extra work to square the face in the time available. A weak grip does not cause a slice on its own, but it makes an open face the default outcome rather than something the golfer has to actively produce.

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  3. Face closed at impact

    The face points left of where the club is travelling. The ball starts left of the path and keeps turning left, and because a closed face also removes loft, the flight is usually lower and more diving than the golfer expected. The same closed face that produces a playable draw produces a hook once it outruns the path by enough.

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  4. Grip too strong

    The hands sit rotated away from the target on the handle, so the face tends to arrive closed unless something else compensates. A strong grip is not a fault by itself and many good players use one, but paired with a path already moving right it is what turns a draw into a hook.

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  5. Clubface aimed off at address

    The face is soled pointing somewhere other than the intended start line before the swing begins. It usually happens when the stance is taken first and the face is squared to the body rather than the target, or when the grip is completed after the club is already on the ground. Everything the swing does afterwards is a correction for a starting error.

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  6. Face angle varies shot to shot

    The face arrives open on some swings and closed on others, so shots scatter to both sides while the path stays roughly the same. This is variance rather than bias, which is why aiming further right or left never helps: there is no single miss to aim away from. It is the fault behind most two-way misses.

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These are not here because they sound similar. Each one can come from a cause on the list above, which is why fixing one sometimes quietly fixes another. The closest matches are first.

What this rests on

If something here contradicts what a launch monitor tells you, say so. Corrections change the page.

Discussion

Golfers who have had this shot, on what it turned out to be and what sorted it. Read it as experience rather than diagnosis: the questions above are what narrow it to a cause.

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