Symptom

I strike it well off the ground but badly off a tee

Shots off the turf behave, but once the ball is teed up the strike, the height and the direction all fall apart, because nothing in the setup or the delivery changed for a ball sitting above the ground.

Fat, thin and topped shots are one problem seen from different sides: the lowest point of the swing arc is not where the ball is. Where it sits instead, and why, is what separates the causes below.

Common ways golfers describe this

  • I can hit my irons but not my driver
  • Irons are great driver is terrible
  • Can't hit off a tee?
  • Fine off the fairway bad off the tee
  • Good off the turf bad off a tee
Lowest point of the swing arc behind the ball, on the golfer's side of itA swing arc seen from in front of a right-handed golfer, so the club travels from left to right and the target is to the right. A hairline marks the turf, with the ball resting on it. The arc sweeps down, reaches its lowest point behind the ball, on the golfer's side of it and exactly at the turf line, then climbs away again. By the time it passes the ball the club is already climbing, shown by a short straight line drawn at the ball along the arc's direction there. The figure moves. The clubhead sweeps the arc from left to right at an even speed, drawing it in as it goes, and the mark at the lowest point comes up to full weight at the moment the head reaches it, so whether the club gets to the bottom of its arc before or after the ball is seen rather than measured.
  • Swing arc
  • Lowest point
Fat, thin and topped are one problem seen from different sides: where the swing bottoms out against where the ball is sitting. The drawing puts the low point on one side of the ball; the questions work out which side yours is on.

Narrow it to one cause

Each question is here because golfers answer it differently, and that difference is what rules a cause out. Nothing is generated while you answer: every question, cause and fix was written and checked in advance.

A few questions · no account needed

What you will be asked

  1. When a teed shot goes wrong, what does it look like?
  2. Put face tape or a little foot powder spray on the club. Where are the marks on teed shots?
  3. What changes in your setup when the ball is on a tee?
  4. After a teed shot, what has happened to the tee?
  5. With the club soled behind a teed ball, how much of the ball sits above the top edge?
  6. Which teed shots go wrong?

Where this can come from

These are the causes this symptom resolves to, in the order they turn up most often. That order is not a diagnosis and it is not your answer: two of them can produce a shot that looks identical from behind. Each has a fix you can read now, whether or not you answer anything.

  1. Hitting down on a teed ball

    The low point falls before a ball that is sitting above the ground, so the club is still descending at contact. Spin rises, launch drops, and the strike climbs the face toward the crown. It is the single most common reason a driver goes shorter than a three wood.

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  2. Tee height wrong for the delivery

    Teed too high for the way the club is being delivered, contact creeps toward the crown. Teed too low, it drops to the bottom grooves. Either way the strike leaves the middle of the face, and with a driver that is worth more distance than most swing changes.

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  3. Ball too far back in the stance

    The ball sits well before the low point, so the club is still descending steeply when it arrives and delivers less loft than the club actually carries. Flight is low and the ball meets the face while the path is still travelling right, which is why a back ball position so often adds a push or a hook.

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  4. Strike high on the face

    Contact above the centre of gravity reduces spin and raises launch, which off a tee can be useful. Off the turf it usually means the club has slid under a ball sitting up in the grass. Ball speed drops either way, so the shot climbs higher than it should and still comes up short.

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  5. Out-to-in swing path

    The club is travelling left of the target line through impact for a right-handed golfer. Curvature is produced by the difference between face and path, so a path moving left with a face that lags behind it opens the face relative to the path and bends the ball right. The same path with a face square to it produces a straight pull instead.

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  6. Delivery too steep

    The club descends sharply into the hitting area, so the margin between fat and thin narrows and any low point error produces a bigger miss. Divots are deep and narrow, and the same steepness usually travels with a path working left.

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These are not here because they sound similar. Each one can come from a cause on the list above, which is why fixing one sometimes quietly fixes another. The closest matches are first.

What this rests on

If something here contradicts what a launch monitor tells you, say so. Corrections change the page.

Discussion

Golfers who have had this shot, on what it turned out to be and what sorted it. Read it as experience rather than diagnosis: the questions above are what narrow it to a cause.

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