Symptom

Chips from greenside rough come out dead or fly the green

From the rough beside the green the ball either stays in the grass and moves a few feet, or jumps out with no spin and runs off the far side.

Where the ball meets the face changes both how it launches and how it curves, so two shots that look alike from behind can come from different strikes. The questions work back from what the face and the flight show you.

Common ways golfers describe this

  • Ball sitting down in the rough chip
  • Fluffy lie chip
  • Chip out of rough goes nowhere
  • Chip out of rough flew over the green
  • Buried lie around the green
Strike out on the toe, level with the centreA right-handed clubface seen from in front, heel and hosel on the left, toe on the right, with eight scorelines running across it. A faint cross marks the centre of the face. The strike is marked with a ring out on the toe, level with the centre. A hairline runs from the centre of the face out to that ring, which is the offset itself: how far from the middle the ball actually met the face. The figure moves. The hairline is drawn outward from the centre, and the ring closes onto the end of it from wide and faint to exact, so the strike is read as a distance from the middle rather than as a spot on its own.
  • Your strike
  • Face centre
  • Offset from centre
Where the ball met the face changes how it launched and how it curved, so two shots that look alike from behind can come from different strikes. The drawing marks one; the questions work back to yours.

Narrow it to one cause

Each question is here because golfers answer it differently, and that difference is what rules a cause out. Nothing is generated while you answer: every question, cause and fix was written and checked in advance.

A few questions · no account needed

What you will be asked

  1. On the chips from rough that go wrong, what does the ball do?
  2. How was the ball sitting before you played it?
  3. After the shot, what did the club leave behind where the ball sat?
  4. Compared with a chip of the same length from the fairway, how did you swing?
  5. Where on the face did the ball make contact?
  6. Was the grass wet when you played the shot?

Where this can come from

These are the causes this symptom resolves to, in the order they turn up most often. That order is not a diagnosis and it is not your answer: two of them can produce a shot that looks identical from behind. Each has a fix you can read now, whether or not you answer anything.

  1. Grass or moisture between face and ball

    Anything trapped between face and ball at impact reduces the friction that creates spin. The shot launches higher, carries further than expected and runs on landing. This is a lie problem rather than a swing problem, and no swing change fixes it.

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  2. Strike high on the face

    Contact above the centre of gravity reduces spin and raises launch, which off a tee can be useful. Off the turf it usually means the club has slid under a ball sitting up in the grass. Ball speed drops either way, so the shot climbs higher than it should and still comes up short.

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  3. Deceleration into impact

    The club slows down before it reaches the ball, almost always after a backswing longer than the shot required. Speed disappears at the only moment it matters, and the bottom of the arc becomes unpredictable, which is why decelerating produces both the chunk and the blade.

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  4. Delivery too steep

    The club descends sharply into the hitting area, so the margin between fat and thin narrows and any low point error produces a bigger miss. Divots are deep and narrow, and the same steepness usually travels with a path working left.

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  5. Contact on the hosel

    The ball meets the rounded hosel instead of the face, so it leaves at an extreme angle with almost none of the speed the swing produced. Whatever move caused it, the fault itself is purely a question of where the club met the ball.

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These are not here because they sound similar. Each one can come from a cause on the list above, which is why fixing one sometimes quietly fixes another. The closest matches are first.

What this rests on

If something here contradicts what a launch monitor tells you, say so. Corrections change the page.

Discussion

Golfers who have had this shot, on what it turned out to be and what sorted it. Read it as experience rather than diagnosis: the questions above are what narrow it to a cause.

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